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Post by robspace on Sept 21, 2012 11:12:44 GMT 9.5
So, if your neighbor gives you an album or game or a book, will you turn it down? Just curious as that's just what file sharing does. Someone or many someones, buys it, then shares it with their "neighbors". At what point is it deemed ok to make a copy of anything? If I buy a cd, according to the law, I'm not able to make a backup copy. New copyright laws need to be made, to allow the artist a reasonable amount of money while letting people make copies and give them to friends.
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Post by Adam on Sept 22, 2012 23:15:07 GMT 9.5
In regards to file-sharing; I agree with you Rob.
Copyright laws in the US and many other countries are ridiculous. Not only are they a nightmare to comprehend, but the laws are simply impossible to enforce with modern file-sharing technology.
We've developed a culture where an artist gets paid a small commission for each individual piece of work they sell; this system has worked quite well in the past, but with modern technology it is a system that just isn't feasible. One can debate the ethics of the issue all they want, but no matter how many websites the FBI hijacks, file-sharing is only becoming more and more popular.
Here is a quote by an apparent recording artist which I think sums it up quite well:
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Post by robspace on Sept 26, 2012 12:17:54 GMT 9.5
I was watching Tom Morello's new band last night on Guitar Center. He was the leader of Rage Against The Machine. He was asked about people pirating music, and he actually agreed with the people downloading. He said that for way too many years, the music industry got away with ripping music buyers and the artists off. He said they sold cds for $20.00, when it cost them about 4 cents to make it. I know I bought alot of those cds. And now, they yell and scream about not making multi millions anymore. He said they underestimated peoples ability to figure out how to get the music free. So, the middle men have been cut out, and he said the old way of making albums, with alot of advertising and radio play is not really done any more. It's a new day, and the music is now a grass roots developed thing. Anyone can make an album and upload it to millions of people with Youtube. So, if an artist is good, he or she will be heard for free. Now, they just need to go out and play the clubs and tour, which is the way it started out and should be. Most great musicians got that way by paying their dues on the road. Today, alot of musicians are not willing to work that hard and stay up driving all night to make it to a gig. Look at people like Buddy Holly and Elvis. These guys went hungry for a while and lived in cars before they made it.
Anyway, I think I-Tunes is a good solution. It's cheap, and yet it pays the artist. Anyone can afford 99 cents a song. And, they have EVERYTHING ever recorded, unlike the torrent sites. And the quality is real good.
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Post by Chips on Sept 27, 2012 7:20:22 GMT 9.5
I don't think anyone minds paying a fair price but my generation has been ripped off for years.
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Post by Paul on Apr 20, 2013 15:27:03 GMT 9.5
There was a time when cassette tapes were how we listened to music. Cassette tape decks had two players. One could record. Buy a blank tape and borrow ZZ Top from a friend and voila, you have a ZZ Top tape and ZZ top got zip. At the turn of the last century Scott Joplin wrote hit songs. Rag Time. There was no MP3's, tapes or records. If you wanted music in your home you made it yourself. You bought sheet music. People printed and sold copies of Scott's music. They made money and Scott got zip. Before that Stephen Foster wrote hit music. He didn't care much about making money. Until he realized others were printing and selling copies. They were making money off his work. So, this has been going on for a very long time and will continue. As for government building the infrastructure for the internet, that gives government control. When government controls the internet then...well...government controls the internet. Paul
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Post by Willow on Apr 22, 2013 20:57:17 GMT 9.5
I think the issue with file sharing is about volume, most people who recorded an album borrowed from friends on their cassette recorder for example, only made one copy and even if the original owner loaned it to several friends its not quite the same as thousands downloading the same album from a file sharing site.
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